Showing posts with label Discover EV31A-A. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Discover EV31A-A. Show all posts

Monday, January 18, 2010

Third Drive of 120V System

Well, I don't know why we put it off more than a week, but we finally gave the new & improved 120V Civic a 3rd test drive. Mostly I guess I was afraid something else would go wrong.

But finally, tonight Alisa and I drove a closed 1.7 mile course starting from our house, three times around for a grand total of 5.1 miles, with an elevation change of about 140 feet from the lowest point on the route to the highest. That's 420 feet of rise & 420 feet of fall in 5.1 miles, or an average slope of 3.1%. Of course, most of the uphill occurs in about 0.5 mile of the course, and the rest of the course is level or downhill (it's a closed course!), so actually it is more like an average of 5.3% incline over 1.5 miles and 2.2% decline over the remaining 3.6 miles.

The KDH14500B did pretty well, IMO. Yes, it is dog-slow off the line, but if you have it in first gear and really step into it, it does alright. Not as good as a golf cart off the line, but then it gets up to 20-ish in first gear pretty easily, and subsequently up to 35 mph in 2nd quite easily. Haven't taken it over 40 mph yet.

But coming up the steepest part of the hill, which is from the low point on the course up the one block to our driveway, we couldn't keep it in 2nd gear. The old 72V controller would hold about 18 mph in 2nd gear. But the 14500B really wants you to shift down into first, and then it will also hold about 18 mph up the hill. Now, we did add 300 pounds of batteries and chargers that weren't there before, and it is still a 500A controller. Probably if we'd added 300 pounds into the Civic with the 72V controller, it would have had more problem with the hill then, too.

Afterwards I went around and felt the connections and battery temps and etc., and measured voltages, and everything seemed pretty copacetic. The controller and the motor were both very warm, enough that if they were any warmer at all I would have said they were hot. The starting voltage while still on float charge was 133.0V, and the ending voltage was 127.1V at rest before plugging back in. The six (92Ah) C&D Tech batteries were between 12.60 and 12.65 at the end of the drive, and the four (115Ah) Discover batteries were between 12.90 and 12.94.

And that's my report on drive #3.

Saturday, November 21, 2009

Insulated Rear Battery Box

Today I built the battery box for the 4 Discover EV31A-A batteries in the far rear of the Honda. From start to finish, it took me about 9 hours, not including breaks! My wife was helping me for about the last 3 hours, too. The tasks included: Unwiring the 4 batteries and removing them from the car. Cutting a 1/2" styrofoam sheet to go under the 4 batteries. Wiring up the 4 heater pads and the thermostat. Mounting the heater pads in the car. Replacing the 4 batteries. Cutting and fitting the styrofoam walls of the box. Fitting a lid. Wiring the batteries all back up. Mounting the thermostat. Cleaning up.

Now all of my battery racks are running at a nice toasty 90'F!
Some pics:

The box, about 1/2 finished, putting together an inside corner.

The corner after it's been slid into place

Buttoned up with the cover.
[Yes, I remembered to get the scissors out! :-)]

The thermostat hides under the block sticking out. Hot water heaters place their thermostats under the insulation, so that the entire body of the thermostat heats to temperature. I mounted the thermostats on the batteries the same way, surrounded and covered by insulation.

Thursday, August 20, 2009

Battery Cost Analysis

I've been encouraged to post my recent evaluation of the cost of various models of traction batteries for EVs. I basically ran the numbers three ways, to answer three different questions:

1) What is the cost per mile to use a particular type of battery? This is answered by the "Total, cents/mile" row under the "System Detail" section. I didn't include the cost of support systems such as charger or battery balancers because, although they may cost more for one type of battery than for another, they are a fixed cost and don't need to be replaced when the battery pack is replaced.

2) What is the overall cost to use a particular type of battery for 120,000 miles? This is answered by the "Cost, $ (incl. electric)" row under the "120K miles" section.

3) How far can you drive on a particular type of battery before you exceed the cost of buying Lithium batteries at today's prices? This is answered by the "Total Miles" row under the "Equal Lithiums" section.

The Range figures were obtained from EV Calculator, using a '92 Metro, ADC FB-4001A, Kelly controller, battery specs available online, Range calculated to 80% Depth-of-Discharge, and a driving mix of 85% @ 30-40mph in 2nd gear and 15% @ 60mph in 3rd gear.

Here are my calculations. I'll let you interpret the numbers as you like. Sorry it's showing up triple-spaced; I can't find a way to correct that.

Cost

Battery Mftr / Model

Analysis

Prices as

Optima

Trojan

Discover

Sky Energy

of 6/15/09

D34M

T-1275

EV31A-A

SE100AHA

Battery

Detail

Chemistry

SLA-AGM

FLA

SLA-AGM

LiFePO4

Cost, $

188

200

490

121

Source

amazon

batteriesin

batteries

evcompo

.com

aflash.com

direct.com

nents.com

Voltage, V

12

12

12

3.2

Weight, lbs

43.5

84

74.1

7.04

Capacity, Ah

55

150

115

100

System

Detail

#(batts)

12

10

12

45

Voltage, V

144

120

144

144

Pack cost, $

2256

2000

5880

5445

Capacity, Wh

7920

18000

16560

14400

Weight, lbs

522

840

889

317

Range, mi

25

40

35

60

#(cycles)

600

600

600

2000

Miles/pack

15000

24000

21000

120000

Electricity, $

428

972

894

2592

(@9¢/kWh)

Total, ¢/mi

17.9

12.4

32.3

6.7

120K miles

#(packs)

8

5

6

1

Total miles

120000

120000

126000

120000

Cost, $

21469

14860

40645

8037

(incl. elec.)

Equal

Lithiums

#(packs)

3

3

1

1

Total miles

45000

72000

21000

120000

Cost, $

8051

8916

6774

8037

(incl. elec.)